Sunnis, Please Explain This to me?
Is this an accurate hadith? I mean, it does say Sahih Bukari. Sahih Bukhari, Volume 3, Book 32, Number 227 Narrated Abu Huraira: Allah's Apostle said, "Whoever prayed at night the whole month of Ramadan out of sincere Faith and hoping for a reward from Allah, then all his previous sins will be forgiven." Ibn Shihab (a sub-narrator) said, "Allah's Apostle died and the people continued observing that (i.e. Nawafil offered individually, not in congregation), and it remained as it was during the Caliphate of Abu Bakr and in the early days of 'Umar's Caliphate." 'Abdur Rahman bin 'Abdul Qari said, "I went out in the company of 'Umar bin Al-Khattab one night in Ramadan to the mosque and found the people praying in different groups. A man praying alone or a man praying with a little group behind him. So, 'Umar said, 'in my opinion I would better collect these (people) under the leadership of one Qari (Reciter) (i.e. let them pray in congregation!)'. So, he made up his mind to congregate them behind Ubai bin Ka'b. Then on another night I went again in his company and the people were praying behind their reciter.>>>>>>> On that, 'Umar remarked, 'what an excellent Bid'a (i.e. innovation in religion) this is;<<<<<<but the prayer which they do not perform, but sleep at its time is better than the one they are offering.' He meant the prayer in the last part of the night (Tahajjut). (In those days) people used to pray in the early part of the night." -Sunni. Thanks for the answers so far, very helpful. Wait, so is this hadith false? Because Umar says 'What an excellent bid3a.'
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- im a shia and i dont see the point of all this.. nawafil is not obligatory.. and i believe that allah will reward those who do it... so being bid'a or not, this doesnt disqualify it as a good way to get closer to god.. if it is bi'a: there is no harm in doing it.. on the contrary, its rewarding if it is not: then the argument is over
- Volume 3, Book 32, Number 229: Narrated 'Urwa: That he was informed by 'Aisha, "Allah's Apostle went out in the middle of the night and prayed in the mosque and some men prayed behind him. In the morning, the people spoke about it and then a large number of them gathered and prayed behind him (on the second night). In the next morning the people again talked about it and on the third night the mosque was full with a large number of people. Allah's Apostle came out and the people prayed behind him. On the fourth night the Mosque was overwhelmed with people and could not accommodate them, but the Prophet came out (only) for the morning prayer. When the morning prayer was finished he recited Tashah-hud and (addressing the people) said, "Amma ba'du, your presence was not hidden from me but I was afraid lest the night prayer (Qiyam) should be enjoined on you and you might not be able to carry it on." So, Allah's Apostle died and the situation remained like that (i.e. people prayed individually). "
- Praise be to Allaah. The view that Taraaweeh prayer is a bid’ah is not valid. Rather we should ask whether it was one of the Sunnahs of ‘Umar ibn al-Khattaab, because it was not done at the time of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) but it was done in ‘Umar’s time, or was it one of the Sunnahs of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him)? Some people claim that it was one of the Sunnahs of ‘Umar, and they base that on the fact that ‘Umar “commanded Ubayy ibn Ka’b and Tameem al-Daari to lead the people in praying eleven rak’ahs.” He went out the same night and saw the people praying, and he said, “What a good innovation this is.” This indicates that it had not previously been prescribed… But this opinion is da’eef (weak), and those who say this are ignoring the reports proven in al-Saheehayn and elsewhere, that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) “led his companions in praying for three nights, and on the third or fourth night he did not lead them, and he said: ‘I am afraid that it may be made obligatory upon you.’” This was narrated by al-Bukhaari (872). According to a version narrated by Muslim, “But I was afraid that prayer at night may be made obligatory upon you, and you would not be able to do it.” (1271). So it is proven that Taraaweeh is part of the Sunnah of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him). The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) referred to the reason why he did not persist in it, which was the fear that it might become obligatory; he did not say that it is not prescribed. This fear no longer applied following the death of the Messenger (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), because when he (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) died, the revelation ceased and there was no longer any concern that it might become obligatory. Once the fear that it might become obligatory was no longer present, because the revelation had ceased, then the reason for not doing it was also removed, and so it was restored to its position of being Sunnah. See al-Sharh al-Mumti’ by Ibn ‘Uthaymeen, vol. 4, p. 78. It was narrated in al-Saheehayn from ‘Aa’ishah (may Allaah be pleased with her) that the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) would forgo doing something that he liked to do lest the people do it and it become obligatory upon them. (Narrated by al-Bukhaari, 1060; Muslim, Salaat al-Musaafireen, 1174). Al-Nawawi said: This shows how kind he (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) was and how compassionate towards his ummah. So there is no basis for saying that Taraaweeh prayer is not part of the Sunnah of the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), rather it is part of the Sunnah of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), but he forsook it for fear that it may be made obligatory upon his ummah. When he died, this concern no longer applied. Abu Bakr (may Allaah be pleased with him) was distracted by the wars against the apostates and his reign was short, lasting only two years. When the reign of ‘Umar came and the Muslims became secure and victorious, he commanded the people to gather together for Taraaweeh prayers in Ramadaan, as they used to gather with the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him). All that ‘Umar (may Allaah be pleased with him) did was to go back to that Sunnah and revive it. And Allaah is the Source of strength. Sheikh Muhammed Salih Al-Munajjid
- Only Allah knows the answer..
- Dude its in bukhari so how can it be false Are you saying that Umar was a liar???????????????? Ofcourse its a bida
- Salam, I'd like to point out that the hadith Darth has provided you with is talking about TAHAJJUD Prayer (which starts after Midnight). and NOT Tarawih It is important to note that: 1. Tarawih is 20 or 8 Rakah prayer >>> after Isha عشاء Prayer <<< 2. At no point did Rasool (saww) pray 20 or 8 Rakah Salah after Isha prayers Our stance is backed up by the first sentence of that hadith, wherein the Prophet prayed after the “Middle of Night”. Narrated 'Urwa: That he was informed by 'Aisha, "Allah's Apostle went out >>>>>>>in the MIDDLE OF NIGHT(i.e. For Tahajjud)<<<<<< and prayed in the mosque and some men prayed behind him. In the morning, the people spoke about it and then a large number of them gathered and prayed behind him (on the second night). In the next morning the people again talked about it and on the third night the mosque was full with a large number of people. Allah's Apostle came out and the people prayed behind him. On the fourth night the Mosque was overwhelmed with people and could not accommodate them, but the Prophet came out (only) for the Morning Prayer. Sahih Bukhari, Volume 3, Book 32, Number 229 In light of this tradition we deem it imperative that people stop falsely suggesting that the Sunnah is evidenced by the fact the Prophet (s) prayed 8 or 20 Rakah Salah after Isha Prayer. The fact is no such evidence exists and we challenge our opponents to negate our assertion.
- The key points we find from the hadith you posted above. 1)Prophet of Allah offered prayers individually and not in congregation 2)Some companions were in the mosque, divided into small groups, praying, not individually 3)Umer gathered all of these small groups into one big group and made an Imam lead them 4)Umer accepts it is an innovation in religion, and is proud of it 5)Umer claims that Tahajjut prayers are better than the prayers they are performing Thus people who claim that tarawih is a sunnat of Prophet (SAW) are either ignorant of this fact, or are liars. Narrated Abu Salma bin 'Abdur Rahman: I asked 'Aisha, "How is the prayer of Allah's Apostle during the month of Ramadan." She said, "Allah's Apostle never exceeded eleven Rakat in Ramadan or in other months; [i.e. throughout whole year] he used to offer four Rakat-- do not ask me about their beauty and length, then four Rakat, do not ask me about their beauty and length, and then three Rakat." Aisha further said, "I said, 'O Allah's Apostle! Do you sleep before offering the Witr prayer?' He replied, 'O 'Aisha! My eyes sleep but my heart remains awake'!" Sahih Bukhari, Volume 2, Book 21, Number 248
- i think some above posted good answers...all i wanna add is that there is something called Good bid'aa. when the quran was revealed it wasnt wrote...ppl later wrote it and here u have it in these days as a book...isnt this a bid'aa? yupe it is, bcz it wasnt the way it was revealed....yet it helps u, me and every muslim/non muslim to read the quran...so its a good bid'aa. thats a very small simple example...but there are many Good bid'aa in our lives.when the bid'aa help the muslims in coming closer to Allah and doesnt change islam in any way...then its not wrong at all. Salam
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